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Mixed Case Search

I am trying to include the chemical formula GaN (gallium nitride) in my search string.  I have run searches in Yahoo, Google and Bing and there doesn't appear to be any way to get case sensitive results.  I get GAN and gan as well as GaN.  Is there any way to get a case sensitive result?
 
Thanks so much.

No case-sensitivity on most search engines

Unfortunately, very few search engines support case-sensitive search.  While the gains would be obvious in your case, it would create problems for the vast majority of searchers who don't realize they're typing in CAPS, lowercase, or SoMe HyBRiD.

Hi, I need your help in

Hi,

I need your help in finding out if there is anyway, on Google / Bing, to get search results in a "Certain radius", like some jobboards and linkedin has it on their search pages.

Finding old web pages of companies out of business?

Is there a specific boolean search string or website or tool that would help me pull OLD web pages of a company that has since gone out of business?

Use the Internet Archive

Use the Internet Archive WayBackMachine. The URL is http://www.archive.org/web/web.php. Type in the name of the website for which you are looking. good luck!

Wayback Machiine

Check old pages of web sites using the Wayback Machine at archive.org

Q#39 Overseas: Multiple Location Search String

Is there a string that can be put together for a CCIE - Solutions Architect that could be based in Delhi, Mumbai, China, Hong Kong, Singapore, Malaysia, or Taiwan. They also need to have CCDP, CCNP, CFOT, ENS certifications. I am looking to incorporate all of these rather than one country at a time. Any help suggestions would be great.

Q#38 Need a Great Plains IT Systems Developer Who Speaks Spanish

We have been tasked to find an IT Systems Developer with strong Great Plains / Crystal Reports experience who is fluent in both English and Spanish. Any suggestions on how to locate strong bi-lingual IT / ERP talent would be greatly appreciated? Thanks in advance for any and all help!

Q#37 Finding former contacts via the Web

I am an Executive Recruiter, specializing in Human Resource placements, who recently reopened my search firm after being out for 7 years. I have a database filled with hundreds of great contacts that I need to reconnect with. They are all individuals in the U.S. who work in the field of Human Resources. LinkedIn has been helpful in finding some of them. What is the best way to find these people when all I have consistently is name and professional field? I appreciate your time and support. Make it a great day! Terri

Q#37 Finding former contacts via the web...

Looks like there's good coverage on this from Shally and the gang; however, just wanted to add my 2-cents worth....

Beyond what was already been suggested, here are some additional resources that I have used successfully in the past to locate (or cross-reference) names of folks:

1. www.123people.com
2. www.yasni.com
3. www.daymix.com
4. ...of course, we can't and shouldn't forget our long-time favorite: www.zabasearch.com

Happy hunting!

Michael Marlatt
http://twitter.com/michaelmarlatt

Question #37

Terri try entering their names into:

1) pipl.com

2) wink.com

3) jigsaw.com

4) zoominfo.com &

5) spoke.com.

 

Come back here and let us know how that works. There's a few other steps you can take after that. 

Cheers,

Shally

Founder, JobMachine, Inc.

www.jobmachine.net/shally

ZoomInfo Power Search

Hi. Is it worth getting a subscription for ZoomInfo PowerSearch? I'd really appreciate your advice. Many thanks ion advance. RT

LinkedIn Power Networker Tip in Bundle

Hi. I've been trying to use your tip about connecting to Power Networkers by using "sort by number of connections". This option does not, however, appear in the drop down menu - is this because it has been removed or am I looking in the wrong place? I'd really appreciate your help. Many thanks RT

Search Engine Recognition of Dual Character set strings

I recently gave some sourcing training in China and Singapore and last year in Israel.

And the issue of dual language strings came up in some of the sessions. The question relates to languages and character recognition by search engines. Let’s make it easy by saying, the question is only in relation to Google (even though I’d like to know for Live and Yahoo as well)

For example here is a string from one of my colleagues in Korea?

(Korea OR Korean OR "South Korea") AND (~CV OR ~resume) AND ("System Engineer" OR "SE") AND ("Manufacturing knowledge" OR "pre-sales") -~job -~post -your -~제품 -~free

Does Google actually understand this string in both languages? Does the -~제품 command mixed with English confuse the engine.

To make things more complicated if there is a character set that does not go left to right like English e.g. Hebrew written left to right, does that cause Google more problems that for example the Romance lanuages that simply go left to right as well with the same alphabet!

Thanks for fielding the question, Dec

People not vacancies!

Hi  I often use searches on google to source candidates, but most of the time the results that I get are job advertisements.  If I search for "Audit Manager" AND Firm I get a load of internet job ads for audit managers at that firm rather than names of actual audit managers.  So, how do I get rid of the job ads from my search results?  I'd be greatful for your advice.  Many thanks  RT

RE: People not vacancies!

Hi RT:

Thanks for stopping by. Unfortunately job postings on the Internet outnumber resumes by a large amount. To make matters worse, resumes and job postings often use the very same keywords, so, if we don't take steps to remove unwanted pages we are deluged with them.

The solution to your problem is easy. Simply add the following to the end of your search string:

-inurl:jobs -inurl:careers

Those are minus signs before the commands. I am not saying you will get what you are looking for but you will see the job postings in your results will be near zero.

Mark 

Mark E. Berger, CPC, CIR
Swat Recruiting

Greater Results: Power Networker URL

Hi:
I recently ordered the LInkedIn CheatSheet and asked an external connection of mine (who is a 1st Degree Connection and a Power Networker <500+) to do a search for me to see how the Power Networker URL works. I gave him the same criteria that I used to run my search and we both came up with the same number of candidates --- 163 total. When I click on the link, because he is a Power Networker, shouldn't his URL show a larger number of results in his search? When comparing the list, the candidate profiles are the same. Am I completing missing the purpose of the Power Networker URL? Thanks!!

Not all networks are created equal

In this one particular example you wrote about its possible you and your friend have the exact same results for this particular search. Because you are getting a low number of results its also possible that your search is so specific that regardless of having a smaller network you are still finding everyone on LinkedIn who matches.

Yet another possibility is that your friend's network is not as big as you think it is, or that theirs is larger but in other industries other than the one for this specific search. I would test this further a couple of different searches. Also, you can send me your search criteria and I can run it on my network (I'm among the top 20 and one of the few people in the world who has exceeded the 30k connection limit). Then if I get 163 total that means that's all there is on LinkedIn and no matter how large someone's network is you will only find those 163 people. 

One final possibility is that you are using a business, plus or pro account, in which case your 163 results includes some amount of "anonymous" profiles, and your power networking friend may be seeing all (or at least more) with full names, in which case they have an advantage and can provide you the names of those few who may be showing up only as anonymous in your search.  

Cheers,
Shally
Founder, JobMachine, Inc.
www.jobmachine.net/shally

Military

As a veteran I want to reach out to veterans having been retired or discharged from the Army Corps of Engineers, military Civil Engineering units, and Red Horse (USAF). Again, as a veteran I don't want to pay a fee to Lucas or Bradley to find these people. Can you help me find a specific source to find veterans? Howie Appel

Finding candiadtes and job postings on Facebook

I recently heard of companies posting their job openings on Facebook profiles 9either individual or company). I was wondering the best search string or technique to find these openings. As well, I have had limited luck in finding active candidates on Facebook, although this has started to become a common practice in the search industry.

Active candidates? Not on Facebook

Facebook is not a great place to source. Recent surveys have shown repeatedly that the majority of FB's population is horrified at the prospect of being directly approached by recruiters because they feel FB is a private place. I have to agree - direct approaches on FB need to be done very carefully and tactfully. However, it is a great destination for Web 2.0 marketing - or viral marketing - and an excellent platform to evangelize your company and their hiring needs.

That said - can you find jobs posted there? Sure, start out with something like this:

site:facebook.com inurl:marketplace intext:jobs

Then add any company name, skills, job titles or other keywords for your industry.  

 

Cheers,
Shally
Founder, JobMachine, Inc.
www.jobmachine.net/shally

Facebook sourcing candidates

I agree, candidates have to be careful how they make themselves available as their current employer might be searching for new candidates and they get spotted. Ooops, beam me up Scotty is the only answer there.

Request Help : Preparing Head Hunting Strategy

Hi Gurus,

I have just been assigned to work on very niche areas like Sales- Presales in Infrastructure domain with 7-12 years expreince and requirements like these. Job Boards are not yielding enough quality profiles.

Kindly guide as to how I can map the market for these skills ( or any skill) , who are the best companies/projects/teams from where I can head hunt candidates and how to find their Email ID/ Contact Details.

Your advice is highly valuable and apprecaited.

Thanks & Best Regards,
Rashmi

finding senior infrastructure sales/presales candidates

Rashmi, it's good that you are geting requisitions that force you to go beyond job boards.  That is how sourcers get good at their work and it makes you a more valuable talent.  Even though it's not for sales candidates, I did a blogpost that's very relevant to your question (click here) in terms of methodology.

Also think in terms of the language of presales and sales people in this space.  What unique words do they use in a professional conversation?  Searching on those may not find you resumes, but great salespeople don't necessarily have resumes floating around.  But you will find bios, press releases, discussion list posts, etc., that have enough info for you to find their contact details.  In terms of finding email and contact details, there are plenty of lookup tools (e.g., Argali is worth the free download for USA home and work phone numbers), but a way that requires nothing special is to determine the email address format for the person's company overall (the corporate website's News/Press section usually lists some people with emails) and then you'll know the email for your target (most of the time it's firstname.lastname@company.com or flast@company.com).

Glenn Gutmacher
VP JobMachine, ACES
www.jobmachine.net 

glenn@jobmachine.net

Email addresses and domain names

I've read some of the posts you've made to ere.net as well as a lot of the information that you have posted about LinkedIn. I wonder if you can tell me, is there a way to search out all the email addresses associated with a specific domain name?

Thanks!

Rusty Jones
Recruiting Team Lead
Metasoft Systems Inc.

Email search

Rusty I'm not sure if this is going to cover exactly what you asked - but you can do a search on any search engine (such as Yahoo for example which has the largest index) and use the email domain as a keyword.

For example, try searching for @jobmachine.net and you will find tens of thousands of pages mentioning the jobmachine.net website, but among those pages you will also find any public mention of an email address on that domain, like mine for example. However, this is kind of a "brute force" approach and may well be more work than its worth. You automate this with a tool like Broadlook Diver, but even then you would only be gathering all the emails on that domain that have been exposed on a web page somewhere. There may very well be email accounts that have not been publicly mentioned thus you won't find them with this method. 

Keep in mind that email accounts can be added and deleted all the time so while you may be able to come somewhat close to identifying most of the addresses on a domain, short of downloading the email directory from the company's mail system there's no method which will be 100% exact.  

Cheers,
Shally
Founder, JobMachine, Inc.
www.jobmachine.net/shally

Sourcing Alumni with specific critieria

Hi Cyber Sleuths!

Need to find alum who graduated with a BS or MS, in Chemistry, Chemical Biology or Biochemistry between 2003 and 2008. My target schools are MIT, Harvard, Dartmouth, Tufts, Boston College, UMass and Northeastern.

I can start off with site:org alumni with college names to identify direct links and explore further? Here are the sample strings I tried  but how do I get more robust results using Boolean on search engines as well LinkedIn? What can I tweak further? I found plenty of alumni related info and even names but no other specifics when Googling with Boolean. Can I get to an actual list or is that asking for too much? :-) Hardest is targeting alum in that  date range .  

  1. site:linkedin.com boston.college (Chemistry OR "Chemical Biology" OR Biochemistry)  AND (BS or MS)
  2. site:linkedin.com "northeastern university" (Chemistry OR "Chemical Biology" OR Biochemistry)  AND (BS or MS) 2000 - 2003  (here I was trying to use the dates they started school though not everyone lists dates!)
  3. harvard AND chemistry (directory | contact) (inurl:alumni | intitle:alumni)

 Thanks! Ruth

RE:Sourcing Alumni with specific critieria

Thank you Mark and Shally!! Appreciate the tweaks and fixing.

Ruth

RE: Sourcing Alumni with specific critieria

Hi Ruth:

You took a nice stab at it with your search strings but one thing I might add is to use the components -intitle:directories and -intitle:companies whenever you are searching LinkedIn with search engines as it can really cut down on unwanted results.

Also, as to your need to find specific dates on a profile, Google has a wonderful feature called a number range search. You would simply add 2003..2008 to your string and Google will limit the results to those that have any number in between and including those two numbers. The syntax is lownumber..highnumber. Those are two periods and no spaces in between the two numbers. This technique only works in Google.

Now, as to your original question, one other techniques you might try is using the site search against the target university domain. Your search #3 is simply not targeting people from Harvard. Try this in Google:

site:harvard.edu (alumni OR alumnus) (chemistry OR "chemical biology" OR biochemistry) 2003..2008

Just swap out the university domain, not the university name, and run multiple searches and see what you get.

And yes, sometimes asking for a list is a bit much to ask. But no harm in trying. Simply add list type keywords to your string like "list" or "roster" or "members"

Good luck!

Mark E. Berger, CPC, CIR
Swat Recruiting

Mark, thanks for this

This is really good, thanks for posting!

Ruth, some other things you might try.

Search for a specific faculty/divison within the school site, e.g.

site:harvard.edu inurl:chemistry (alumni OR alumnus) (chemistry OR biochemistry) 2000..2008

You'll also find more alumni by using the search engine to find social/business networks (though still always search the school sites, overlap isn't significant, you can often find large alumni repositories there, and find lots of other clues about how to track people down):

site:linkedin.com Harvard (alumni OR alumnus) (chemistry OR "chemical biology" OR biochemistry) 2003..2008 (inurl:in OR inurl:pub)

Interesting things about this one. First, by including inurl:/in/ you retrieve more than using inurl:pub alone. Using inurl:in doesn't seem to work unless you include it with inurl:pub, and putting slashes (i.e. inurl:/in/) before in (i.e., inurl:/in/) doesn't limit results to the /in/ directory so it seems pointless to include them; thus, if someone has a name like "Devin", the engine will pick up the "in" in their name even if they are in a /pub/ directory, still not a bad thing if Devin fits the other criteria. To experiment, try with:

site:linkedin.com devin (chemistry OR "chemical biology" OR biochemistry) 2003..2008 (inurl:in | inurl:pub)

But including inurl:in brings back 8 results with Devin, using only inurl:pub retrieves six. Also, you don't have to have space in front of or behind the | - so (inurl:in|inurl:pub) work too, doesn't matter.

And of course you can find same or similar results by using the -inurl:updates -intitle:directory stuff too, instead of in/pub, just vary it up if you want.

You can also put Harvard and (alumni OR alumnus) close to each other, with something like this: Harvard*(alumni OR alumnus)
- THOUGH if you do this you may miss a large number of Harvard alumni who don't actually reference the alumni groups in their background, so try it both ways. Omitting the * is good because you can add relevant search terms to really get precise without missing what you would miss using the *, while using it can bring you closer more quickly, especially if the search result without * is large or if you don't think that adding search terms will make much difference.

You can also find top grads by adding something like: honors (a really good one)
dean's*~list also finds some (not as many). Use things like (distinction OR honours) overseas, or the national equivelants.

NOTE: With this honors example, you usually don't need to include (alumni OR alumnus) because those words usually (though not always) mean someone has already graduated, so with:

site:linkedin.com Harvard (chemistry OR "chemical biology" OR biochemistry) 2003..2008 (inurl:/in/ OR inurl:pub) honors
...by eliminating (alumni OR alumnus) you can really increase the hits.

Also try finding specific skill or diversity telent, if you want, by adding technical and/or ethnic alumni or fraternity/sorority associations. For example: site:linkedin.com ("Ivy League" OR harvard) (alumni OR alumnus) 2003..2008 ~fraternity*engineer
...or try ~diversity. And as earlier, nix (alumni OR alumnus) to find even more - though you might need to change the numbers range to help narrow to actual alumni and reduce the number of people who are still attending (i.e. change 2003..2008 to something like 2000..2006)

Lots of other things you can do, just have a play!

Cheers,
Paul

Finding graduates on LinkedIn

Nice one Ruth and Mark!

On LinkedIn you need to use the full name of the school because that is how its listed on public profiles, not by the abbreviation, and also it will make for more accurate hits. 

I would also suggest using Google's * which helps you connect something like a degree, with a particular year or as Mark suggests a range of years like 2003..2008. I would also use the | to join the BS and MS together like this BS|MS - the | replaces the OR and makes for a Boolean search that includes either BS or MS or both. You can do the same with the three disciplines you suggested. And finally since you are searching for the school name you don't have to worry so much about eliminating all the non-profile pages.  Here's your revised search string: 

site:linkedin.com "Massachusetts Institute of Technology" BS|MS "chemistry|chemical|Biochemistry * 2003..2008" 

Of course to be more inclusive in your search you can add the other schools:

site:linkedin.com ("harvard university" OR "dartmouth college" OR "Tufts University" OR "university of massachusetts" OR "northeastern university") BS|MS "chemistry|chemical|Biochemistry * 2003..2008"

 

Cheers,
Shally
Founder, JobMachine, Inc.
www.jobmachine.net/shally

International Recruiting In Cairo

I have been trying to find Elctrical Design Engineers to work at our project in Cairo and have been having no luck... any suggestions?

Electical Engineer in Cairo

A good place to start with International requirements such as this it to identify top notch universities and use their name as a sourcing keyword. In this case Cairo University is reputable and has a good EE program. To narrow things down you can add a simple degre keyword such as "electrical engineering" but be sure to qualify that with your "design" requirement lest you get a ton of EEs with no design interest. Finally, try various combinations of keywords that will help you identify the result as a personal page instead of a job advertisement. My first attempt at this was:

"electrical engineering" design "cairo university" (me OR my)

and it produced satisfactory results. However, there are too many pages so consider narrowing down the requirements just a bit by adding a few more criteria. Try other combinations of words that identify a personal page like for example "I work" etc. 

 

There's lots of different ways to do this so why don't you give that a shot - and come back here to post a follow up, then I can give you some other ideas. 

Cheers,
Shally
Founder, JobMachine, Inc.
www.jobmachine.net/shally

Electrical Engineer in Cairo

Hello,

If looking for EE in semiconductor (presuming this is what you want), more often than not, if you enter this, you'll also find someone with EE, or someone doing the work who knows others with EE... :

(CMOS|BiCMOS|SiGe|gaas) Cairo

You can add other elements like (technical (program OR committee)), ieee, filetype:pdf, (patent OR assignee), inurl:edu, etc etc, as you see fit, and can make it less power related by changing up the various semi-processes, more geographically accurate by adding geography/company/local surnames and so fort;

Or if not semiconductor related, you could enter a few EE "tools" people use when going about their work, in addition to degree names/schools in the region.

Good luck!

Paul

RE: Federal Healthcare Sales

suggestions to source for federal healthcare sales candidates. Thank you

Most Bang for the Buck

Hi All,

 I have been trying to master the art of sourcing attendance lists from conferences that candidates I am seeking attend. I have tried multiple search strings and have not had much luck finding more then a few lists here and there. I am curious if I am on the right track with the string below or if I am way off base and could be using another string.

(intitle:participant list OR inurl:participant list OR intitle:attendee list OR inurl:attendee list) AND Conference Name

                   Thoughts? Suggestions? Please save me from my madness!

           TGIF!

      C

Conference Attendees

Hi Christine!

What a good question! I love it when I get specific search strings I can disect. Here's a few things that stand out:

  1. You can't have two words after commands like intitle: and inurl: unless they are in quotes
  2. You don't "need" the AND Boolean. It doesn't hurt but it also doesn't do anything so you can just leave it out
  3. The conference name probably also needs to be in quotes
  4. You won't really have much luck finding a "list" as in an excel spreadsheet that lists all the names of the people who attended a particular event. Organizations have gotten wise to the level at which search engines explore their sites so this is a rare occurrence now. 
  5. You may also want to add the year so you don't get out-of-date lists

 

So give this a shot:  

 

(directory OR contact OR list) (inurl:members OR intitle:members OR inurl:participants OR intitle:participants OR inurl:attendees OR intitle:attendees) "Conference Name"  YEAR

 

Or one of my favorite ways is to look for people who are talking about having attended a particular event. For example try this hack: 

 

("i attended" OR "i was at" OR "i went to") "Conference Name" YEAR

 

I tried them both on Javaone 2007 here and here. Come back and let us know how this works out for you!

 

Cheers,
Shally
Founder, JobMachine, Inc.
www.jobmachine.net/shally

Amazing!

Shally - You are the King of Sourcing! Thank you for the reply. I have incorporated your strings into my sourcing, and while you are correct - its not as easy as it sounds to find list of folks - I have found a lot of names to work off of. I am currently at a list of 1,000 in my pipeline and still building!

Thanks so much for taking the time to help!

Chrissy

Sharepoint/MOSS administrators

I just need help in identifying Sharepoint Admin's vs the more common found developers. This one such need.

SharePoint Administrator

The Sharepoint Administrator will be responsible for the implementation, monitoring and maintenance of the infrastructure required to support a large multi-farm Sharepoint/MOSS environment. The Sharepoint Administrator will be responsible for all day to day support of components and aspects of the Sharepoint environment. This position will provide guidance and expertise to Architecture and management on topics surrounding strategy and best practices.

  • Responsible for installing, configuring and supporting all SharePoint technologies within the environment
  • Assist with designing, implementing and maintaining MOSS/Sharepoint solutions
  • Deploy new infrastructure and solutions, maintain and troubleshoot issues with the SharePoint software and solutions
  • Providing troubleshooting assistance to users and developers.
  • Transferring knowledge and technical expertise to other team members and end users
  • Assist with Information Architecture (taxonomy) appropriate to each particular client.
  • Responsible for configuration and customization of Search features and solutions
  • Performance monitoring and measuring of all infrastructure components and provide input on capacity and performance planning · Develop and document procedures and best practices

Skills Needed: · In-depth knowledge of installing, configuring and supporting SharePoint technologies (WSS 2003 v2,SPS 2003 ** MOSS 2007, WSS v3) · SharePoint Server MOSS 2007 / WSS 3.0 / WSS 2.0 experience including extensive experience in installation, configuration and administration of SharePoint · IIS 5.0/6.0 experience · Windows Server Experience including Windows 2003 server · Strong Knowledge of Active Directory, DNS, Networking, Security Principles · Extensive knowledge and skills in troubleshooting and tools · Basic Scripting abilities in VBScript or other scripting tools · SQL Server 2000 / 2005 Experience SQL Clustering Experience · Knowledge of VMWare Virtual Infrastructure · Excellent written and oral communication skills. Good organizational skills · NET, C#, InfoPath a plus · Knowledge of Web Services and the .NET Framework

RE: Sharepoint/MOSS administrators

This is an interesting question. While a SharePoint administrator is more senior than a developer, it is likely that qualified candidates would have been SharePoint developers first. Therefore, a search that eliminates developers would likely eliminate good results, too. So, instead, you will need to add terms that that find such people, and realize you may have to sift through some less-qualified results.

Ideally, we want some sample ideal resumes to benchmark against, because the language that candidates use to describe themselves is more valuable than the language in your job requisition. (One of many concepts covered in more detail in JobMachine's Managing the Sourcing Desk workshop.)

So let's start with a simple Google CV synonym resume search (one of the many search string templates you see on Shally's Google Sourcing CheatSheet) like

~cv sharepoint moss ~administrator -example -job -jobs -sample -samples -send -submit -template -you -your

Among the on-target results are Kris Wagner and Scott McCullock.  Let's look at the unique language characterizing the more senior administrator skills/duties in these resumes, such as:

  • "Played key role in defining SharePoint architecture to implement an intranet/extranet portal"
  • "SharePoint rollout included deployment of a large nine-server farm"
  • "Lead the design, architecture and implementation of SharePoint in enterprise and medium-sized corporations"

After doing this for several resumes, we can add the unique terms to our job requisition-based search string to narrow results further. You can also search blogs by these people's names (see JobMachine's new Blog CheatSheet for many methods and sites) to find their often-equally qualified peers, and likewise dig into the user groups and other more formal professional associations that these people belong to (all part of the Peer Regression Search methodology in JobMachine's advanced sourcing workshops).

For example, Kris says he's a member of the Chicago SharePoint Users group, and searching for that organization uncovers valuable lists of many SharePoint user groups like this and this, which are obviously helpful if your search is limited geographically.

You could also search user groups' posts and other archived mailist discussions where these people communicate with their peers. One obvious starting point is Google Groups. I first look for replies to posts (typically more expert contributors) and added the unique term farm (you could add others, of course) and eliminated various keywords that typically turn up job postings:  insubject:re moss administrator farm -immediate -req -jobs -resumes 

Now you can see various routes to relevant active and passive talent -- there are others, but the above seems to point to enough to generate a sufficient pipeline!

Glenn Gutmacher
VP JobMachine, ACES
www.jobmachine.net 

glenn@jobmachine.net

Searching for Proposal Manager

There seem to be lots of Proposal Mgrs on the market, but we have not yet found one to handle the entire federal government proposal process for our Federal Solutions Group in Reston VA. The challenge is to find one with ~10 years experience with DoD and/or Federal Govt IT & professional services customers. RFT job w/ benefits. Your thoughts? Thanks
BTW - Regards to Glenn.

Sourcing / resume mining for Physical Therapist

I am stuck on finding a good string for searching for a specific background such as physical therapist. Any suggestions to help me get off the ground? Thanks.

Angel

PTs

Sure! Here's one search string on Google and here's one on Live.com. Also try the site: search along with pronouns on the State and National Nurse Associations like this: 

 

Cheers,
Shally
Founder, JobMachine, Inc.
www.jobmachine.net/shally

This is a tough search.

Hi,

This is a tough search!!!!... Guaranteed. I need help sourcing candidates for Systems Integration Engineer searches.

MUST be US Citizen. Must be eligible for a Top Secret Clearance …
Job Location Beautiful GERMANY AND Diversity candidate
• Keywords
Audio Visual /AV Systems, IT Systems, passive and active Infrastructure, electronic Security systems and engineering architectures, processes and lifecycles , VIS, C41,DODAP , “facilities and systems requirements” ; large scale C41 projects over $25 million, Building , turn key design/build proposals

Engineering degree not IT……..Not a Consultant role

Can you help?

How do you source for eligibility?

While it seems tough at the surface what's going on here is a series of missed expectations so yes I believe we can help. Some of your challenges can be solved by sourcing but others are strictly solved by old school recruiting, and managing your hiring managers.  

Lets start with what cannot be solved by sourcing. First of all, unless you are looking ONLY inside resume databases the likes of Monster and CareerBuilder, attributes such as any particular kind of citizenship, diversity status or clearance eligibility will seldom appear in plain sight on resumes people host in their homepages, blogs, etc. Such attributes are searchable fields (when individuals even choose to select them) inside of resume databases but no such structure exists on the open web.  

With diversity you are opening a whole other can of worms. In fact, that is so complex that all I can do here is warn you that by searching for one protected class and not another leave you vulnerable for audit or fines. The other level of complexity is that many people who would fall under the definition of a diverse candidate choose not to identify themselves that way, even if YOU think they are. Its ultimately up to the individual to self-select, assuming you can even tell to which protected class they belong. If you really “must” know how to get started down the path of diversity sourcing then check this out and come back from more when you have a more detailed search challenge we can solve for you.  


On the subject of location – its quite possible to geographically target your searches, but that will only find a small selection of people who identify that they currently live in Germany. We can do that by searching for international telephone codes (in Germany its +49) and major metropolitan areas (like say for example Berlin). However, most searches on the open web will be unable to help you identify that the individual is open to relocation. With rare exception (sites like LinkedIn for example) most social networking sites don’t provide a “Where would you like to live” question for people to answer on their profile. 

 

OK so with that out of the way then what can sourcing do for you? Well first of all you need to get rid of your requisition-specific language. All those keywords you want are going to exist only on job postings and not on many resumes. In fact, if you do see all those keywords on a resume, chances are you will find only consultants because they are the only people who would “game” the system by front loading so many buzz words into one document. What you CAN and WILL be able to find are people who talk about doing that kind of job, but they will not be resumes. What you can find are traces of virtual conversations happening on blogs, people mentioning what they do in their bios and online social networking profiles, and other online footprints. 

So, if you can answer this question and come back to us with your new discoveries, then I would be happy to continue taking you down the steps for a solution to your problem. Your challenge, should you choose to accept, is to identify what words a German Systems Integration Engineer from a government contractor organization (or subcontractor organization) would use when “talking shop” in public places such as websites, etc. 

Come back with a few ideas and I’m happy to keep steering you in the right direction. Think in terms of job titles, company names, jargon they would use, and locations where they would live.

Cheers,
Shally 

Finding People Seriously Open to Working from Home

Hi Shally,

I'm one of your contacts thru LinkedIn and a follower of yours.  Here's my question:  I know there are serious network marketers (open to new streams of income working from home).  When I search data bases for the sake of recruiting, I get bogged down.  I don't know how to find those people who are part of the counter culture--people who work for themselves from home--people who recruit for their own team, working from home.

Can you advise me on that?

 Dianne

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French speaking Tech support

I need to find a french speaking technical support person, what kind of search string, outside of the "French" variable be effective?

RE: French speaking tech support

  1. Not sure how much of "French" you've covered, but if you're searching for profiles (e.g., in blogs, on social networks, etc.) as well as for resumes, then make sure you have natural language phrases like ("speak French fluently" OR "fluent in French" OR "french fluency" OR "French language" OR "language * French") etc. as part of your search strings.
  2. There may be some tech support associations based in places known to have large proportions of French speakers (e.g., look for a Montreal, QC chapter of various professional associations as well as more informal user groups).
  3. Search for people who have lived in France or a French-speaking country - you can create a substring of those (France OR "Cote d'Ivoire" OR Haiti) etc., as well as using phone country codes in combination with city names.
  4. Search for someone who's attended a French school.  Rather than include a list of schools, you can take a shortcut like (ecole OR universite) to get most of those results.
  5. Also consider searching for your desired tech support terminology in French - better to pull from a French language job posting than using a free Web translation tool, but the latter should work if it's just a short phrase.

Obviously, some results from the above methods will include overseas candidates, which will require you to filter a bit.  However, if your support person works remotely, that may not be a big issue.

Glenn Gutmacher
VP JobMachine, ACES
www.jobmachine.net 

glenn@jobmachine.net

The Role of a Sourcer

In your opinion, how should a sourcer be used by a recruiting group? I'm new to my role and I sense hesitation and confusion over how to best position me as a resource. At times, I get the feeling that the recruiters think it's a waste of time to consult the sourcer.

Demonstrate your value

This is likely because your precedessor was underperforming, and you've inherited that baggage.  But you can prove you're different.  If you are both an Internet and phone sourcer, then you bring more to the table than the average sourcer.  In any case, you just need opportunities to show what you can do.

Find out what reqs have been sitting open the longest or are deemed hard to fill (your group manager or ATS should reveal that) and ask the assigned recruiter for the info that fills the knowledge gaps around what's stated in the req (what does a candidate *really* need to be successful in the position?). Then come back with a list of 10-15 sourced leads (make sure they're not already in the queue) and ask the recruiter if these seem on target.  If you're not on target, ask specifically what's wrong with your submissions.  Offer to do an initial screen if you only have profiles but not a resume, to save the recruiter some time.

When you start to deliver candidates who match a priority need, you're adding value and making the recruiter look good.  The word will get around and you'll soon have more internal customers than you can service, and then *you* can start prioritizing the work!


Glenn Gutmacher
VP JobMachine, ACES
http://www.jobmachine.net/ 

glenn@jobmachine.net